This is another archived post from a finance thread on 4chan.
I’m tired of seeing people posting that “mortgages are just the bank fucking you” and “owning property is letting the jews win” and all this shit.
Here’s how to own a house and make more money with the bank’s money than the bank is making.
Find a decent vacant lot for ~$50k. There are lots around if you look online in your area, it doesn’t have to be huge but the more you can get over a half acre, the better.
Now the bank will fund you to build a house on that lot, it’s called a builder’s mortgage. They give you money in increments based on what the final value of the house/lot will be. They have no problem with lending you $200k to build a house that would sell for $300k.
Their first payment has the cover the cost of the lot AND get your house to 40% completion, though, which is where most people struggle to get through. You’ll probably need to borrow some money to get through this part, but don’t worry, you’ll get it back once the build is done. They are giving you the FULL cost to build the house in full, they’re just lame about the increments they give it to you in, in order to cover their ass. They don’t want to give you the first payment and have you go to Vegas and blow it, and all they can take from you is a vacant lot that isn’t worth what they’ve given you already.
Build a decent house. As in, don’t build a piece of shit. Spend some time looking at floorplans and decide on what you’re able to afford square footage wise. I just recently built a 1750sq ft home with a fully finished basement for ~$230k. The monthly payment on our mortgage is ~$1150. Make sure your building contractor is including the price of a fully finished basement in the total cost. Two bedrooms, kitchen, bathroom, laundry room in the basement, and there are two sets of stairs to access the basement. One is from the garage, one is inside.
Two sets of stairs mean basement tenants never have to enter your actual house; they access the basement from the garage.
Complete the house, and rent the basement out to either a couple or two separate people.
Price the rooms comparatively to what a dorm room costs at your nearest college/university if you’re near one, and if you’re not, make sure it’s priced comparatively to other rented properties in your area. If shitty ass two bedroom apartments that are small in an apartment complex are being rented for $1000/mth, you can get more than that easily. You are offering a brand new, clean, never been lived in, LARGE two bedroom apartment.
Now, use their rent to pay your mortage off. Where I am, shitty fuckin dorm rooms are rented for around $600/mth. That makes renting the basement to two students EASY for $1200/mth, because it’s the same price as a dorm but a hell of a lot nicer. We’re close to a university, so that allows us to be a bit more choosy with who we want living there as well.
With the mortgage being $1150/mth and rent coming in at $1200/mth, any amount of money you are able to save is able to be chopped right off of your mortgage. My fiance and I budgeted ourselves around $1100/mth, so I know we are comfortable with giving that up. So we put that on top of the rent, and the mortgage gets paid of way faster.
By renting the basement out and also holding ourselves responsible for “paying” the mortgage ourselves as well, we are able to pay off a shitpile of the mortgage over the course of two years. The interest in the first year was around $6500, and we’re aiming to pay off close to $28k. The second year we’ll pay off a similar amount, but the interest will be less.
Here’s the numbers because I know people will try to say that it’s bullshit. You need to make enough money in order to support an $1,100 mortgage payment, that’s it. If you can make the mortgage payment, the bank is happy to give you the money and rape you on interest over many years.
Those of you paying rent probably pay close to that already.
My bank is CIBC so I used their mortgage calculator for reference.2.79% on a two year fixed rate
$230,000 + $6417 interest = $236,417 owed
Payment is $1,064/mth = $12,768 per year
1200 in rent x 12 months = $14,400 per year
You are paying $1,100 per month = $13,200 per year
So you’re paying off $27600 total minus the interest per year
Which means, after the first year, you owe $208,319
So now you’ve lived in your house for five years. The bank will make ~$3200 off of you in interest the following year.
And obviously the entire mortgage is paid off in the 10th year. Paying a brand new house off in 10 years is not fucking common for young people to accomplish. If you can manage to get the bank to loan you the money when you’re 20, you could own the house in full by the time you are 30. That’s nuts.
So, to round this all up, the bank lent you $230,000 with the intent of you taking 25 fucking years to pay it off. This amounts to them raping you in interest because you took so damn long to pay it.
You paid the entire thing off in 10 years, and you were under zero pressure the entire time because, if something were to happen in that time and you were in need of money, your mortgage for that month was already paid regardless. You don’t even have to be frugal with your savings, this is assuming that you’re holding yourself obligated to pay for your own mortgage and that’s IT.
Now, you own a house that costed $230,000 to build.
The bank made ~$34,480 in interest.
You own a house that can be sold for $300,000+ easily, and now you are making $1200/mth right into your pocket if you don’t want to kick your tenants out and take the basement back for yourself. My municipality just raised my property taxes and my house was appraised at $400,000+. You can make a lot of money doing this if you do it properly.
You borrowed money from the bank… and you made a lot more money with it than the bank did, as well as got yourself a new house to live in, and worry-free mortgage payments for a decade. Oh, and you own a house in 10 years, and that’s by holding yourself to the bare minimum of paying your own mortgage and having tenants. If you can save more than that, you could have it paid off faster.